GTR 34 - 700+ HP FOR SALE - HELP PLS

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 8:06 pm

Hi guys,

I am looking to buy a well modified skyline. During my search, i found one at Top secret Ajman. Its GTR 34 2000 model (YELLOW). The owner of the showromm claims that it is his own personal car. He had made all modifications to the car and the car now has more than 700 HP on it (his claim ?!). Anyway, he wants 120 K Dhs for it as last price. Do you guys think that it is a fair price for such modified skyline?. I would appreciate your feedback as I am new to skylines.

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Post by Accord98 » 01 May 2006, 8:10 pm

im not an expert,

but if you could try and post a list of the "mods" he has done --- it may give people a better idea about the price :)

My opinion: 120K is alot....

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 8:19 pm

I tried to get more ifo from the owner but he kept on saying that it had all modifications done (salesman talk...! I know..) but i don't have any more info.
If it had everything on as he said, what should the price be?. I don't want to be overcharged for it because I am not an expert. :roll:

I will try to see the car tomorrow and get more accurate info on the modifications done

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Post by Alpha » 01 May 2006, 8:43 pm

IS it one of these that they're trying to sell?

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The Rocket Dancer one is 1000hp+, straight from Japan, tuned by Fujimura Auto. So, my bad guess but it can't be that one. About the 2nd one, I've heard its approx. 700-800hp (true sleeper) with no exterior mods. Eitherway, 120k sounds fair to me if its really 700hp since the prices of stock R34 GT-Rs have come down to almost 70K (LHD/Regd). 120K is still "a bit" overpriced. If only you could bargain till 115K, it will be a perfect deal (considering the interior/exterior condition of the car as well.)

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 8:57 pm

Thx Sam...really appreciate the feedback.
I dont think its either one of the cars that you posted as the one I am talking about has some stickers on it (saw photo of it only...) any way, if it is really 700 + HP as the owner claims then I will definitly bargin for 110-115K. (is there any way i can check its power?...dyno maybe...)
I was also thinking of buying a normal stock GTR and doing the modifications myself (he has one LHD GTR 34 2000 Red, stock engine with V-Spec look and very liitle modifications (clutch..etc), he is asking for 90 K.....? is it much? and how much a good modicfication wil cost (to get 600-700 hp). what do you think is best buy it ready or do it myself..?

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Post by Alpha » 01 May 2006, 9:14 pm

Salem wrote: (is there any way i can check its power?...dyno maybe...)
Dyno is probably the best way to find out the power but are you sure the owner will be ready to let you dyno it "before" you actually buy it from him or pay a certain part of the cost as downpayment? If the car was tuned locally, there are high chances of it being much less than 700hp as the guys here who tune locally *dont* Dyno-test their cars. It's always an approximate. Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to verify the power figures.
I was also thinking of buying a normal stock GTR and doing the modifications myself (he has one LHD GTR 34 2000 Red, stock engine with V-Spec look and very liitle modifications (clutch..etc), he is asking for 90 K.....? is it much?
He told you a lesser price. I saw the same car in this month's Auto Trader issue (also posted the offer in the other topic) where he's asking for Dh100K. It looks clean to me (saw only the pic) but its a good price IF you're not looking forward to tune it to like 600hp or more. Since I don't know you in person, I don't know "from where" will you tune the car yourself but yes, its always better to tune it yourself (step by step) so that you could figure out the effects of each of your mods AND see if its giving the right power figures.

If you go for a tuned one, you don't know how the car has been used or what all problems has it given in the past and how were dealt with. This will give you no idea of the engine at all and could also make it difficult for you if you happen to experience any problems in the future.
..and how much a good modicfication wil cost (to get 600-700 hp). what do you think is best buy it ready or do it myself..?
For me, a "good modified" Skyline is only the one that has not been touched by local tuners. It's hard but not impossible to find a pure Jap-tuned Skyline imported straight from Japan in all-ready condition. Such cars are usually imported and sold off at the port itself. One good example is the Rocket Dancer GT-R. It has been imported from Fujimura Auto in Japan (used to be a Track car there) and is being used by Legend Garage at UAQ drags. If you can find SUCH a Skyline, I suppose it will be the best buy of your life.

Otherwise, honestly speaking, I would suggest you to go for a lightly-tuned Skyline, upto around 400-450hp which should be easy to manage and to which you could tune yourself in the future as well.

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Post by booster » 01 May 2006, 9:17 pm

Salem wrote:Hi guys,

I am looking to buy a well modified skyline. During my search, i found one at Top secret Ajman. Its GTR 34 2000 model (YELLOW). The owner of the showromm claims that it is his own personal car. He had made all modifications to the car and the car now has more than 700 HP on it (his claim ?!). Anyway, he wants 120 K Dhs for it as last price. Do you guys think that it is a fair price for such modified skyline?. I would appreciate your feedback as I am new to skylines.

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y dont u try to buy an r33 or an r32 cuz i saw thera a powerfull looking blue gtr32 with white n gray blitz sticker :)

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 9:41 pm

that blue gtr 33 at top secret was sold for 60 k. IT HAD 600+ HP as per the showroom owner...

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 9:47 pm

Sam,

I think you are right with regards to the way it was tuned and the history of the engine (usage, problems.....etc).
what i meant by tunning it by myself is buying a clean gtr and taking it to tunning specialist (let me know if you know some one good) and doing the modfications that I would like to have on my ride. Off course i would love to have a ready modified one provided its modifications can be verified ( a japanese one will be ideal, but where to find decent one...?..)
I was told that a decent rb26 modification would cost an average 30 k dhs..is that true..?

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Post by Alpha » 01 May 2006, 9:52 pm

Salem wrote:that blue gtr 33 at top secret was sold for 60 k. IT HAD 600+ HP as per the showroom owner...
It could be true...

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 9:57 pm

no this is NOT the blue gtr 33 that i was talking about. where can i find this beautiful gtr33 and how much is it ?. whats the phone no. ....?

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Post by Alpha » 01 May 2006, 10:05 pm

Salem wrote:.. taking it to tunning specialist (let me know if you know some one good)
Performance Motorspares in Jebel Ali are the most decent (and expensive) tuner specialists in the whole of Dubai. Sheikh Hamdan's R34 GT-R was tuned by them (also, NOT dyno'ed) and they claimed 900hp, most probably because it had a GReddy T88 single turbo. In my opinion, there's no other tuner specialist more expert and caring than PMS (http://www.performanceclub.net).
( a japanese one will be ideal, but where to find decent one...?..)
There are some in Sharjah (I knew) but not anymore. The only major problem when you decide to tune it from scratch will be the conversion from RHD to LHD. Jap ideal ones are RHD/UnRegd. Which mean, clearly another Dh18,000+ for the conversion and some extra for the registration. This will be the best choice since you'll be aware of the standard quality of the engine and can tune it however you may like. If you can do something about the registration-procedure, RHD/UnReg ones will cost around Dh65,000 and less.

Some garages import highly tuned R34s but they unfortunately get sold at the port itself without even reaching the garage. This is because some guys are already told about the shipping of such cars and they're ready and willing to buy the car at first sight. So, I have no idea of where you could actually find a decent R34 at this time (when there's so much demand for Skylines.)
I was told that a decent rb26 modification would cost an average 30 k dhs..is that true..?
I will say, it can cost much much more than that. Imagine a GReddy T88 turbo kit itself (including the Intercooler etc.) costing approx. Dh14,000. The rest spent on the transmission, cam gears, clutch, exhaust system, driveshaft, computer system etc. will be much much more than the remaining 16K.

The average of 30K that you were told might be by the local tuners like ARP Workshop or RSG Workshop but then, you're not guaranteed the full performance and horsepower figures, neither the quality. Most locally tuned engines break off the crankshaft simply because of overboost on less-powered engines (even though they may have a T51R or a T88.)

PS. The HKS 6-speed Transmission alone costs approximately Dh7,000+, provided that it is only compatible with HKS F-CON V computer system and HKS Triple-plate clutch. Imagine the entire cost yourself.

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 10:19 pm

thanks for the details on costing....it seems to me know that buying a powerful modified skyline (or modifing one) sounds much more complicated than what i thought it might be. :!: frustrating , isn't it??
I currently drive an SL 55 AMG (500HP) and honda bike CBRR 600 R. when i went to motorplex in uaq and saw those killer skylines i immediatly fell in love with these cars and wanted to buy one (as soon as i find one that would satisfy my adrynaline rush coz both the SL55 and 600 R sounded slow in comparison to those 700-800 HP skylines.......).

what about my inquiry about the previously posted gtr33 blue (above)?.

thx man.....

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Post by booster » 01 May 2006, 10:34 pm

Salem wrote:no this is NOT the blue gtr 33 that i was talking about. where can i find this beautiful gtr33 and how much is it ?. whats the phone no. ....?
how bout this r33 dun know if its sold but all i know tht its 4 sale 4 120.000 d.h.s
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check out featured cars before the last 1 (BEUTY N THE BEAST)

this might help ya more maybe sam knows more bout tht car :)

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Post by Salem » 01 May 2006, 10:38 pm

i love this orange GTR 33 blitz. do you know who is the owner and if there is a no that i can call.....? im interested......



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