Who does a good work of Camber/Tos Settings ?

Wheels, tires, suspensions, brakes etc.

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Post by TryllZ » 24 Apr 2013, 7:15 pm

CaL][CaB wrote:1. Do you have the rims?
if Yes pics pls...

2. finding the tires you want to stretch with needs a lot of test fittings....so Yeah...USED tires for now

3. do you have the camber kits?

4. You also might have to Roll/Shave your fenders...so a repaint and body work is also invloved...

start off with the rims and look for tires
Hey man.,

So I'm all done with the kit & the rim, only part pending is approval from
RTA or CID Police.

RTA gave me 3 options.

- Get NOC from the dealer [Shit didn't work]
- Get NOC form CID [Haven't tried it yet]
- Bring car to any desired test location before modifying to see if they
can approve it. [Waiting for failure from the second]

What do you say in this case, any experience.

I have chosen Between these:

http://www.nekketsu-racing.com/www/img/ ... -V1-l9.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/2331m.jpg

ThanX

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
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Post by Mr.HacKeR » 26 Apr 2013, 11:10 pm

Why do you need the approval from RTA? I don't think it is necessary, unless you're planning on changing the look of the car entirely, so that people can't tell what car it is..
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Post by CaL][CaB » 28 Apr 2013, 1:56 am

you dont need it

go ahead stretch them tires...lower it all down...ur fine as long as you dont enter sharjah...

just before your annual passing and registration bring it back to normal with decent ride height

* send me some pics of the kitting work..i got some things to work with*

what RIMS !?

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Post by TryllZ » 30 Apr 2013, 11:45 am

CaL][CaB wrote:you dont need it

go ahead stretch them tires...lower it all down...ur fine as long as you dont enter sharjah...

just before your annual passing and registration bring it back to normal with decent ride height

* send me some pics of the kitting work..i got some things to work with*

what RIMS !?
Here's the funny part, I stay, Work in Sharjah...National Paints..

I am only concerned with Camber Plates & Arms if required, has RTA any issues with them on passing ?

Finalized Kits, Waiting for a quote from them on export charges, the previous ones the talks failed, as they never the kit would need molding after purchase:

Thus Mode Regalia: 1.http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/604 ... 5399_o.jpg
2.http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 4595_n.jpg

Mode Gamu-R: http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 9146_n.jpg

Could'nt find this, was decent one too:
Front: http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 6120_n.jpg

Back: http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 2152_n.jpg

Wheels: Work Varianza V5S:
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 5135_n.jpg

Rims Finish, Should go good on my Silver Civic: http://www.workwheelsusa.com/userfiles/ ... KF_BKB.jpg

Any good paint garages for low price, I'll keep current color ?

Any input is good input...!

ThanX....to All..

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by Mr.HacKeR » 30 Apr 2013, 5:27 pm

Well, I'm on D2 Coils. And I also stay in Sharjah!
I guess because my car is not common, everyone assume it is low by the manufacturer..

I've been stopped for exhaust/engine inspections only, and I even registered the car with Eibach springs, before I got the coils. I think they only care about safety and emissions, so you shouldn't stretch the tires when you register the car.

I've been wondering, maybe it isn't a good idea to stretch the tires in the UAE. Especially because of the hot weather, normal air would expand, and the tire won't be safe anymore (it's never safe to stretch a tire anyway). I had 8.5" wheels on 215s before, not a crazy stretch, but looked good!
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Post by TryllZ » 30 Apr 2013, 5:39 pm

Mr.HacKeR wrote:Well, I'm on D2 Coils. And I also stay in Sharjah!
I guess because my car is not common, everyone assume it is low by the manufacturer..

I've been stopped for exhaust/engine inspections only, and I even registered the car with Eibach springs, before I got the coils. I think they only care about safety and emissions, so you shouldn't stretch the tires when you register the car.

I've been wondering, maybe it isn't a good idea to stretch the tires in the UAE. Especially because of the hot weather, normal air would expand, and the tire won't be safe anymore (it's never safe to stretch a tire anyway). I had 8.5" wheels on 215s before, not a crazy stretch, but looked good!
Hey thanx for the input.....

I decided not to go stretched due the very reason, weather....I'll go for low profile...

As for D2, whats the ride like, average, good or better ?, hows damper, stiff or adjustable, Does the D2 come with any camber for the front ?, I checked online there is one with camber for the front only....

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by Mr.HacKeR » 30 Apr 2013, 6:47 pm

The ride is stiff :roll: But the dampening is adjustable, I just don't really care if it's stiff or not 8-)
You can get used to it, but honestly the ride is fine as long as you're CRUISING at 80-100 kph, you'll only feel the stiffness when you corner or drive on a bad road/bumps. The ride will become bouncy when you drive at speeds of 120+kph. Now I especially hate driving on these (the yellow lines).. You'll feel them as if they were mini bumps :twisted:
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Oh and the coils came with front camber plates only!

These are the full specs of the D2 coilovers for the 06-11 Honda Civic

D2 Racing Sports Coilovers System Features:
- 36-Way adjustable rebound and dampening
- Monotube high pressure design for fade free performance
- Custom spring rates from 3 to 22 kg/mm
- Teflon coated spring perch
- Vehicle drops of up to 120mm, 90-100mm on some applications
- 6061 powder coated aluminum camber plates and upper pillow ball mounts
- Includes keys for ride height adjustment
- CNC machined
- Fully rebuildable and serviceable in the United States
- 1 year limited warranty

D2 Racing RS Coilover Kit Contents:
-4x Height adjustable shock absorber
-4x Main springs
-4x Lowering spring seat
-4x Seat lock
-2x Height adjustment tool
-1x Technical manual

Reference: D2 Racing Sports Coilovers System, D2 Racing RS coilover kit, D2 Racing Sport coilover kit, D2 RS Coilover System, RS Coilover kit

Sample D2 Racing Coilover Technical Manual

Front Rear
Camber Plate Yes None
Top Mount OEM OEM

You can get them for $910 from here http://www.raceinspired.com/p-21827-d2- ... -2011.aspx

Or a full list of available coilovers for your Civic
http://www.raceinspired.com/cs-20-coilovers.aspx
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Post by TryllZ » 30 Apr 2013, 7:02 pm

Mr.HacKeR wrote:The ride is stiff :roll: But the dampening is adjustable, I just don't really care if it's stiff or not 8-)
You can get used to it, but honestly the ride is fine as long as you're CRUISING at 80-100 kph, you'll only feel the stiffness when you corner or drive on a bad road/bumps. The ride will become bouncy when you drive at speeds of 120+kph. Now I especially hate driving on these (the yellow lines).. You'll feel them as if they were mini bumps :twisted:
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Oh and the coils came with front camber plates only!

These are the full specs of the D2 coilovers for the 06-11 Honda Civic

D2 Racing Sports Coilovers System Features:
- 36-Way adjustable rebound and dampening
- Monotube high pressure design for fade free performance
- Custom spring rates from 3 to 22 kg/mm
- Teflon coated spring perch
- Vehicle drops of up to 120mm, 90-100mm on some applications
- 6061 powder coated aluminum camber plates and upper pillow ball mounts
- Includes keys for ride height adjustment
- CNC machined
- Fully rebuildable and serviceable in the United States
- 1 year limited warranty

D2 Racing RS Coilover Kit Contents:
-4x Height adjustable shock absorber
-4x Main springs
-4x Lowering spring seat
-4x Seat lock
-2x Height adjustment tool
-1x Technical manual

Reference: D2 Racing Sports Coilovers System, D2 Racing RS coilover kit, D2 Racing Sport coilover kit, D2 RS Coilover System, RS Coilover kit

Sample D2 Racing Coilover Technical Manual

Front Rear
Camber Plate Yes None
Top Mount OEM OEM

You can get them for $910 from here http://www.raceinspired.com/p-21827-d2- ... -2011.aspx

Or a full list of available coilovers for your Civic
http://www.raceinspired.com/cs-20-coilovers.aspx
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Wow, quite a response there, nice, appreciate your time......

I was actually planning on anything with on the fly control for ride height from in car cabin but no such thing in coilover, only air bags...until then I'll go for D2 and may be RTA will freak out....like OMGosh, what the what is that !!....

:grin: :grin: :grin:

ThanX, will check on em linx...

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My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by Mr.HacKeR » 30 Apr 2013, 7:08 pm

There is another thing, bags over coilovers. I'm currently looking into doing this, I still need to figure out a few things.

The basic idea is that you replace the springs on the coilovers with air bags, and if you adjust your coils to whatever height, at 0PSI you'll be driving on your coils only! This should be much cheaper than getting a complete air kit.
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Post by TryllZ » 30 Apr 2013, 7:17 pm

Mr.HacKeR wrote:There is another thing, bags over coilovers. I'm currently looking into doing this, I still need to figure out a few things.

The basic idea is that you replace the springs on the coilovers with air bags, and if you adjust your coils to whatever height, at 0PSI you'll be driving on your coils only! This should be much cheaper than getting a complete air kit.
Yeah I read bout them too lately, they are a good alternatively, I dont mind, coilover or anything that doesnt require constantly removing wheel to adjust height....its KO...but till then we have to survive...

If only those bags over coils caon be controlled, internally....its a yes yes...

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by CaL][CaB » 01 May 2013, 1:47 am

1. Theres nothing so cheap about these bags over coil overs ...at max your still seeing at 6-8k of input. ( the only cheaper option is IF you yourself could make the setup, which im currently in the works with)

2. no matter if you have PROPER airbag/Air cylinders/ Hydro/ coil over airbags, YOU will still need a whole kit that involves an Air cylinder, Air Valves, Compressor, Air lines and a few more things
not to forget a person who has good experience with them

3. Air suspensions are ONLY controlled from the inside

4. RTA will FAIL it immediately

5. Lets say you have stretched your tires and slammed your car ...if your in sharjah donot expect any "understanding" from the police here ...i recently had my 6th offense and was impounded also ...thankfully i got it out in a few hours

6. Bags over coils are widely on the internet and are being sold as kits...their as good as plug and play...go for those

iv had coil overs for 2 years now and all iv got are 7 tickets from PIGS

im very against coil overs (living in sharjah)

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Post by TryllZ » 01 May 2013, 7:50 am

CaL][CaB wrote:1. Theres nothing so cheap about these bags over coil overs ...at max your still seeing at 6-8k of input. ( the only cheaper option is IF you yourself could make the setup, which im currently in the works with)

2. no matter if you have PROPER airbag/Air cylinders/ Hydro/ coil over airbags, YOU will still need a whole kit that involves an Air cylinder, Air Valves, Compressor, Air lines and a few more things
not to forget a person who has good experience with them

3. Air suspensions are ONLY controlled from the inside

4. RTA will FAIL it immediately

5. Lets say you have stretched your tires and slammed your car ...if your in sharjah donot expect any "understanding" from the police here ...i recently had my 6th offense and was impounded also ...thankfully i got it out in a few hours

6. Bags over coils are widely on the internet and are being sold as kits...their as good as plug and play...go for those

iv had coil overs for 2 years now and all iv got are 7 tickets from PIGS

im very against coil overs (living in sharjah)
1. RTA will fail Cambers or Airbags ?
2. What was the fine amount ?
3. If, impounded for how long ?
4. 7 tickets for coilovers ?, were you too low as compared to standard, Pigs were oinking in Sharjah or Dubai ?
5. I read if such, fines, impounds happen one can actually file a case against Sharjah police due to Sharjah Police jurisdiction over Dubai Plates, don't know if all that is bull..
Sharjah Police
Dubai police
AbuDhabi police
Rest of the eimrates Police, also,

Another question, do height adjustment with coilovers needs be by removal of wheel or there is another way, something like a lever or something .... ?

On an adjustable note, there is also a Hydraulic Adjustable Ride Height from KW Coilovers, with in/out car cabin adjustability [Remote Control] sold separately as a kit for OEM coilovers like Ferrari and others, but with custom coilovers it cannot be purchased as a seperate kit, it has to be purchased with their coilovers....unsure about price...was reading about it yesterday...

Thanks for the input...valuable info...

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by CaL][CaB » 01 May 2013, 11:30 am

TryllZ wrote:
CaL][CaB wrote:1. Theres nothing so cheap about these bags over coil overs ...at max your still seeing at 6-8k of input. ( the only cheaper option is IF you yourself could make the setup, which im currently in the works with)

2. no matter if you have PROPER airbag/Air cylinders/ Hydro/ coil over airbags, YOU will still need a whole kit that involves an Air cylinder, Air Valves, Compressor, Air lines and a few more things
not to forget a person who has good experience with them

3. Air suspensions are ONLY controlled from the inside

4. RTA will FAIL it immediately

5. Lets say you have stretched your tires and slammed your car ...if your in sharjah donot expect any "understanding" from the police here ...i recently had my 6th offense and was impounded also ...thankfully i got it out in a few hours

6. Bags over coils are widely on the internet and are being sold as kits...their as good as plug and play...go for those

iv had coil overs for 2 years now and all iv got are 7 tickets from PIGS

im very against coil overs (living in sharjah)
1. RTA will fail Cambers or Airbags ?
2. What was the fine amount ?
3. If, impounded for how long ?
4. 7 tickets for coilovers ?, were you too low as compared to standard, Pigs were oinking in Sharjah or Dubai ?
5. I read if such, fines, impounds happen one can actually file a case against Sharjah police due to Sharjah Police jurisdiction over Dubai Plates, don't know if all that is bull..
Sharjah Police
Dubai police
AbuDhabi police
Rest of the eimrates Police, also,

Another question, do height adjustment with coilovers needs be by removal of wheel or there is another way, something like a lever or something .... ?

On an adjustable note, there is also a Hydraulic Adjustable Ride Height from KW Coilovers, with in/out car cabin adjustability [Remote Control] sold separately as a kit for OEM coilovers like Ferrari and others, but with custom coilovers it cannot be purchased as a seperate kit, it has to be purchased with their coilovers....unsure about price...was reading about it yesterday...

Thanks for the input...valuable info...

well not camber setting exactly but AIRBAGS YES they will ask you to go back

200aed with 7 days impound

I went all out low...and why wouldnt I? its my car for godssake I should be able to do what I want with it the "OINKING" happens in sharjah...in dubai theres no sign of harassment of this level

you can ofcorse go to the court with this but have you thought in your mind what your case is? " YOU LOWERED THE CAR " there is no case

no need to remove the wheel...jack up the car, and twist the locks on the treads of the coilovers...takes me 10 mins max

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Post by TryllZ » 01 May 2013, 11:43 am

CaL][CaB wrote:
TryllZ wrote:
CaL][CaB wrote:1. Theres nothing so cheap about these bags over coil overs ...at max your still seeing at 6-8k of input. ( the only cheaper option is IF you yourself could make the setup, which im currently in the works with)

2. no matter if you have PROPER airbag/Air cylinders/ Hydro/ coil over airbags, YOU will still need a whole kit that involves an Air cylinder, Air Valves, Compressor, Air lines and a few more things
not to forget a person who has good experience with them

3. Air suspensions are ONLY controlled from the inside

4. RTA will FAIL it immediately

5. Lets say you have stretched your tires and slammed your car ...if your in sharjah donot expect any "understanding" from the police here ...i recently had my 6th offense and was impounded also ...thankfully i got it out in a few hours

6. Bags over coils are widely on the internet and are being sold as kits...their as good as plug and play...go for those

iv had coil overs for 2 years now and all iv got are 7 tickets from PIGS

im very against coil overs (living in sharjah)
1. RTA will fail Cambers or Airbags ?
2. What was the fine amount ?
3. If, impounded for how long ?
4. 7 tickets for coilovers ?, were you too low as compared to standard, Pigs were oinking in Sharjah or Dubai ?
5. I read if such, fines, impounds happen one can actually file a case against Sharjah police due to Sharjah Police jurisdiction over Dubai Plates, don't know if all that is bull..
Sharjah Police
Dubai police
AbuDhabi police
Rest of the eimrates Police, also,

Another question, do height adjustment with coilovers needs be by removal of wheel or there is another way, something like a lever or something .... ?

On an adjustable note, there is also a Hydraulic Adjustable Ride Height from KW Coilovers, with in/out car cabin adjustability [Remote Control] sold separately as a kit for OEM coilovers like Ferrari and others, but with custom coilovers it cannot be purchased as a seperate kit, it has to be purchased with their coilovers....unsure about price...was reading about it yesterday...

Thanks for the input...valuable info...

well not camber setting exactly but AIRBAGS YES they will ask you to go back

200aed with 7 days impound

I went all out low...and why wouldnt I? its my car for godssake I should be able to do what I want with it the "OINKING" happens in sharjah...in dubai theres no sign of harassment of this level

you can ofcorse go to the court with this but have you thought in your mind what your case is? " YOU LOWERED THE CAR " there is no case

no need to remove the wheel...jack up the car, and twist the locks on the treads of the coilovers...takes me 10 mins max
Thanx for the info.....oinkers on the loose I see...I'll need to be more careful...
10 mins is good.....

My Speedo Numbers Don't Lie
* * * * *
Corolla '93, Escalade '06, 180
Odyssey, '07, 140+
CRV, '09, 120
Golf, '02, 200
Cayenne Turbo, '05, 231
Cayenne Turbo, '08, 190+
Carlsson Aigner, '09 [09 of 10] 200
Continental GT, '12 150
Civic '06, 133

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Post by Mr.HacKeR » 01 May 2013, 3:29 pm

Ya bags over coils will cost you at least 7000Dhs, I already did the math. But that's about 50% cheaper than a regular air kit, simply because you don't need air struts. I could be wrong though..

I tried talking to LAP57 about converting my coilovers into bags, but they weren't excited about it.. Maybe I should try somewhere else..
Are you sure the car won't pass if I have an air suspension?! I see a lot of crazy low lexus' on the road, usually parked. So I think they're on bags.. I will try and ask one of them

My only concern is the air tank and the compressors.. my trunk isn't exactly spacious
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