How to increase the Power of a B16A without turboing?

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Post by DLock » 25 Jul 2008, 2:01 pm

OK anyone know how tune a B16A (Si-R) without a turbo. Remember i wanna keep the ride street legal in conjuction with Dubai road rules.


It already has an air intake, upgraded Exhaust (Type-R), Ecu chipped and tuned......so what's next?'
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Post by RasHooD » 25 Jul 2008, 3:13 pm

you say its chipped and tuned? so are you looking for a retune?

if you are looking for future mods it should be a b18c5 swap and/or :- /camshafts/cam gears/valves/retainers/pistons/connecting rods/ P&P/ Vtec controller/ type r brakes etc.etc...

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Post by albertho555 » 27 Jul 2008, 12:52 pm

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Post by albertho555 » 27 Jul 2008, 1:25 pm

DLock wrote:OK anyone know how tune a B16A (Si-R) without a turbo. Remember i wanna keep the ride street legal in conjuction with Dubai road rules
I dont know how to tune a B16A, but i can advice you on making your car a bit quicker than it is ... in conjuntion with Dubai road rules you cannot modify anything in a car - so you will have to scrap that idea of obeying the road rules :)

DLock wrote:I've already got an air intake, upgraded Exhaust (Type-R), Ecu chipped and tuned......so what's next?'.
intake and EK9 exhaust are a good start but why did you spend your $$$ on tuning+chipping for just a I/H upgrade. i suggest you a set of cams and P73 pistons to bump your compression up a bit. Now the trouble you will fall is, you have to pay 'again' to get a re-tune after installing the pistons and cams. Next time think a bit further before spending your hard earned $$$ (unless its your dad's $$$ ;) ).

Cam : choice is yours, how hardcore you want to go ... im running skunk2 stage 1 cams on my EK, very street friendly cams. Stage 2 and 3 is also available - its all your choice.

Pistons : stick with P73's ... they are safe. If you are not worried about disasters and you have a good tuner in hand ---> go PCT ;)

After all this, you need power with control .... so as Rashood said above, you need to change your suspension and upgrade your brakes and LSD is a must too.

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Post by Eleanor » 27 Jul 2008, 1:26 pm

lol .... haha - i like this topic - nice albertho ...

even though i dont have a B18 series engine ... iv got the D series i think - can anything be done with tht ???

got the intake for now ....
what does ECU chips do ?? anyone willing to educate me ?

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Post by albertho555 » 27 Jul 2008, 1:26 pm

and yes, i am keen to know who chipped your car in Dubai as i would also like to see his work.

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Post by albertho555 » 27 Jul 2008, 3:20 pm

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Post by EliteTuning » 27 Jul 2008, 10:12 pm

Eleanor wrote:lol .... haha - i like this topic - nice albertho ...

even though i dont have a B18 series engine ... iv got the D series i think - can anything be done with tht ???

got the intake for now ....
what does ECU chips do ?? anyone willing to educate me ?

SD -
I've got a d16y7 engine as well and you can turbocharge it, supercharge it, custom tune it (hondata, crome, uberdata, etc...), cam it (although there is not too much power from a single cam engine with low compression).

Thread starter. I would recommend an upgrade in camshafts, higher compression pistons, intake manifold, with a high flowing header and exhaust system and a full re-tune.

I hope that helps

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Post by DLock » 27 Jul 2008, 10:32 pm

albertho555 wrote:and yes, i am keen to know who chipped your car in Dubai as i would also like to see his work.
Ok once again albertho555 has proven that he is the ultimate in tuner knowledge......

Sorry guys ...it would be a "tuned ECU"...lol

Got it done at LAP 57!!!

the VTECH Kicks in at 4000RPM!!

Anyways ....guess cam and piston upgrades is what i'm looking at....so i gotta save up and it's not "dad's cash"...lol

By the way Albertho do u own a red civic EK and live in Al Riqqa?

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Post by RasHooD » 27 Jul 2008, 11:39 pm

^^ alberto lives in ghusais as far as i know, but he does own a red EK, a very sweet one at that...

you can check his ride out by clicking on the ridedomain link in his signature...

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Post by Eleanor » 28 Jul 2008, 3:14 am

EliteTuning wrote:
Eleanor wrote:lol .... haha - i like this topic - nice albertho ...

even though i dont have a B18 series engine ... iv got the D series i think - can anything be done with tht ???

got the intake for now ....
what does ECU chips do ?? anyone willing to educate me ?

SD -
I've got a d16y7 engine as well and you can turbocharge it, supercharge it, custom tune it (hondata, crome, uberdata, etc...), cam it (although there is not too much power from a single cam engine with low compression).

Thread starter. I would recommend an upgrade in camshafts, higher compression pistons, intake manifold, with a high flowing header and exhaust system and a full re-tune.

I hope that helps
thnx elite ....
does an ECU chip make a D series or whtever engine for tht matter go faster ? could this same ECU chip be used and retuned in the future if i ever need to change my engine /? to a B series ?

SD -

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Post by albertho555 » 28 Jul 2008, 6:26 am

Eleanor, a tuned ecu will make you a 'bit' quicker .. but i suggest, invest in in after doing yourself some upgrades (intake, exhaust, headers, cams) ... if not, your gains wont be noticable.

Dlock, in ghusais ... close to where the SiR boys hang out ;-) Red EK is mine, im sure you have seen it at Lap57 along with my Tegra. Its there these days for a tranny rebuild.

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Post by DLock » 28 Jul 2008, 4:54 pm

albertho555 wrote:Albetho555 got ya..seen the tegra too...we shud meet up soon at LAP57 ...one of these days....I checked with Rizvi on the gear box for my Si-R too...i might have to save up and get one in after 4 months...i hope the prices drop by then... and after that i'll look into the cams and pistons.... :D .

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Post by DLock » 28 Jul 2008, 4:56 pm

OK that last post sucked coz i made it look like i quoted my own reply....WTF!!!...i hate these codes !! :s

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Post by albertho555 » 28 Jul 2008, 5:53 pm

ahaha ... when i saw it i was like wth?? i never typed that !+@$_+!@#)



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